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  • #36887
    SylarDean
    Participant

    What’s the rules on giving cheat codes for games on here?

    Say cheat codes for ‘Cheat Engine’ for PC games this site covers? thought I’d ask before just randomly posting cheat codes cos I know some sites don’t like people giving or using cheat devices for games and hosting the codes on their sites.

    I created 2 codes for Cheat Engine last night for Dragon Sinker and would like to share them if its allowed, the two codes I created were for..  999999 Gold and 999999 DRP. I made them purely so I could get all the items off the DRP store purely for my item/equipment list for my guide, so I am able to make it as complete as possible.

    Cheat Engine saves the cheat codes as a .CT file that opens in the ‘Cheat Engine’ program, so I could share that file here if it’s possible to upload very small files but ONLY IF you guys think it’s okay to share them and allow it.

    I tried looking for cheat codes for hours and could not find any myself ANYWHERE on the net so this is why I decided to just make my own, this would be a unique feature for your website and locked behind members access this would likely get more people to also sign up to your site if this is what your looking for 🙂

    Any hows, let me know what you think.

    #36888
    Jesusalva
    Participant

    Albeit The Rules say nothing about it, @msg-commander (the keymaster) said what he thought about bugs

     

    I’ll leave here a link:

    https://www.rpginsanity.com/forum/wizards-of-brandel/26663-weapon-customizing-bug/

     

    But this decision is ultimately upon @msg-commander – Keep in mind there are websites specific to share cheats, I think even GameFAQ have a section only to share cheats.

     

    I’m also not sure if the Commander issue would be with cheating, or with specifically cheats which rip off developers (although as of late they’ve been trying to rip us off too… *sigh*).

    In any case, I don’t think there’ll be any problem if you merely say “I have cheat sheets for Dragon Sinker PC”, because what MSG cannot see, cannot harm him either… (I’m pretty sure he said that in another thread but for the sake of me, I can’t find it again)

     

    In any case, we should wait for @msg-commander to reply.

    • This reply was modified 4 months ago by  Jesusalva.
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    #36891
    SylarDean
    Participant

    Ah I see msg-commander’s concern there.. cos the IAP is what people can buy from the developer on the mobile versions of the game.. in Dragon Sinker case I suppose it would be the DRP that i’m guessing would be the currency you can buy off Kemco?

    I’m, pretty sure this is different for STEAM (PC) versions of the game though, you get 1000 free DRP straight off and then you gain 5 DRP every few levels and sometimes off monster drops, so they got rid of the buying Shop Currency option for the PC/Console releases and implemented it into the game to earn yourself as extra grind.

    So, it certainly would not be ripping off Kemco if the Cheat Codes were for PC versions but it would be if the codes were for android/mobile versions.. i’m assuming this is why there are free/premium versions of the game for mobile kemco games, they just changed the currency platform for PC/Console versions and up the price for the games.

    In any case, I seem to be having issues with the codes any hows, every time I shut down the game and reload the code addresses change so I have to do a re-scan manually again to find the new addresses, so for now I won’t post them until I can find the real code address that never changes and correct pointer, i’m a total noob at code hacking so it will take a while for me to understand and find the correct codes.

    So, with that said I wont post codes until I know for sure they work all the time and ONLY if msg-commander says it is okay to post PC cheat codes for Cheat Engine. 🙂

    #36894
    Azyleo
    Moderator

    I’m also not sure if the Commander issue would be with cheating, or with specifically cheats which rip off developers (although as of late they’ve been trying to rip us off too… *sigh*).

    While as a long time moderator over on this Forum, I believe that “cheats” themselves are considered a big no-no. To further elaborate what can be considered “cheats”:

    • Using third party programs to gain advantage over the game. Usually root based programs for Android and equivalent versions for PC (primary being Cheat Engine).

    Using in-game discovered “bugs” can be considered “cheats” to some players but those do not require third party programs and are as such deemed fine and good. We have used plenty of such “bugs” to our advantage on this forum (Revenant Dogma being one such case).

    TL;DR – “Bugs” are cool to exploit, but using third party programs is a no-no.

    As always, @msg-commander has further say on the matter.

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    #36897
    MSG Commander
    Keymaster

    @sylardean,

    As far as cheats are concerned… if it’s something that requires a person to hack the game’s code or download additional files, I’d rather not have that stuff here.

    I don’t know anything about Cheat Engine (in fact I’ve never even heard of it?) But the basic guideline for this forum is, if it’s a hack or something that would take money out of the developer’s pocket, it’s not allowed.

    On the other hand, if there’s an existing bug in the game that lets you get free IAP points or extra gold or exp/whatever just by exploiting the bug, that’s allowed.

    If you have any other questions please let me know.

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    #36898
    Jesusalva
    Participant

    In any case, I seem to be having issues with the codes any hows, every time I shut down the game and reload the code addresses change so I have to do a re-scan manually again to find the new addresses

    It’s actually quite common that certain engines change the pointers and memory address every save/load. I’ve ever seen a game which changed pointers and address every time a battle was complete.

    I don’t know anything about Cheat Engine (in fact I’ve never even heard of it?)

    Cheat Engine (Linux’s version is PINCE) is a memory manipulation program. PINCE (for Linux) works on a lower level, while Cheat Engine provides a neat interface. Not sure if any exist for Android.

    Essentialy: The program needs to remember things, like the graphics it is showing, the sound it is playing, and more importantly, your data, like HP.
    So, the program requests the Kernel to record on the RAM these data, and the Kernel returns it a memory address.

    As the one responsible for controlling the RAM Memory is the Kernel (Linux/DOS), and not the program itself, Cheat Engine and PINCE are capable to make requests to the Kernel to edit these same addresses without the original program knowing about.

    Essentialy, you have 200 GP. This is recorded at memory address, say, “0x1f”. You open one of those tools, and request the Kernel to change the value recorded on 0x1f to 30000. When the program goes looking for how much GP you have, it’ll return whatever is on 0x1f – which is now 30000.

     

    Typically, only programs running as superuser, as a different user, or running directly under the kernel have protection against this kind of attack. Because RAM memory is not safe, programs are instructed to never load raw passwords to memory. It’s the programmer’s responsability to include counter-measures to prevent memory sniffing or injection, either by encoding the values on memory (strong but slow, usually used only for passwords) or by dynamically assigning different memory address every time you open/load the program (weaker, but doesn’t impacts performance). There’s other options as well, like checking against plain text data, or using “reasonable variation” and “historical value” data. (Usually costy as well)

    Memory injection may or may not be prohibted by the Terms of Service, please read the fine print before signing it. It counts as “indirectly affecting the software normal behavior” or whatever, the only difference from bots is that it bypass the original program entirely.

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    #36899
    SylarDean
    Participant

    @sylardean,

    As far as cheats are concerned… if it’s something that requires a person to hack the game’s code or download additional files, I’d rather not have that stuff here.

    I don’t know anything about Cheat Engine (in fact I’ve never even heard of it?) But the basic guideline for this forum is, if it’s a hack or something that would take money out of the developer’s pocket, it’s not allowed.

    On the other hand, if there’s an existing bug in the game that lets you get free IAP points or extra gold or exp/whatever just by exploiting the bug, that’s allowed.

    If you have any other questions please let me know.

    Thanks msg-commander, also others for replying. I guess I have my answer. 🙂

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